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| fates
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Date:
Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From:
"R. C. Ketterer"
Subject:
fates and music
Does
anyone know of a representation before about 1600 AD, literary or
artistic, of the Fates playing musical instruments and/or dancing
instead of spinning, etc? I'm interested in connection with a stage
production in Florence in 1589.
Date:
Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From:
Michael Haslam
Subject: Re: fates and music
Muses
sing & dance & play, & Fates substitute for Muses
singing at wedding of Thetis & Peleus in Catullus 64. To have
Fates playing &/or dancing would be the next step along that
road. Singing & dancing normally inseparable (choreuei n).
Sounds about right for mid-XVI Florence, but I can't give details.
Date:
Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From: robert c ketterer
Subject:
Re: fates and music
What
you suggest is exactly the step I want to take, but it would be nice
to hav e a back up representation somewhere. The text -- of the
sixth intermedio for 1 589 to be exact--isn't specific about who is
singing the trios. On the analogy of Catullus I want it to be the
fates.
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From:
CWC
Subject:
Re: fates and music
Another
passage perhaps worth consulting is the Myth of Er in Bk 10 of the
Republic, about Stephanus 617: the music of the spheres is produced
by the movements of the spheres on the knees of Necessity. I
wouldn't say the Fates are definitely involved here, but they are
indireclty.
Date:
Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From:
"Richard F. Thomas"
Subject:
fates and music
if
just singing is what you want (rather than playing), as m haslam
says there 's catullus 64; also eclogue 4 and tibullus 1.7.1, on
which kirby flower smith (great name) has a note. they seem to be
singing even in apollodorus (propheti cally), then and also in ovid
(smells of nicAnder heteroioumena, eh michael?). what is interesting
is that the iconography doesn't seem to shift to a musical
instrument, in spite of the endemic
spinning-as-singing/writing/playing metaphor.
Date:
Wed, 7 Jul 1993
From:
"R. C. Ketterer"
Subject:
fates and music,
With
thanks to yesterday's commentors, yes there are plenty of singing
Fates, but I want to know of any that play musical instruments and
dance, too. Maybe it's too much to expect of them, with Muses and
Graces around, and maybe it's infra dig. But it does sound like a
natural step for them to take, and I wonder, failing an ancient
precedent, if there are Medieval or Renaissance examples. |
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