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animal noises
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From: Ken Kitchell
Subject: Vocabulary for animal noises

This is a bit off the beaten path, but I am looking for instances of the actual sounds made by animals in antiquity. I have a couple of lists of the verbs describing the animals' noises (e..g. rugio, strepo, etc) and could do with more and/or bibliography in this direction. But most importantly I would like instances of the actual noise such as the dog in Aristophanes which says, I think, "bau" and the frogs and their famous call.

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From: Mark Williams
Subject: Re: Vocabulary for animal noises

I seem to recall that in Aristophanes' _Wealth_ a mosquito's noise is rendered by the verb _bombew_. Sorry, can't find the reference, but I think it's around line 500.

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From: Michael Haslam
Subject: Re: Vocabulary for animal noises

The classic is Bruno Snell on the sound of the donkey in Hermes 1935 (would that be the year?): the only word Greek donkeys could pronounce was No (*ou*) (important evidence for pronunciation of *ou*)--while German donkeys could only say Ja.

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From: "Richard F. Thomas"
Subject: animal noises

i would think it would be pretty hard to find much in the way of the actual noi ses outside aristophanes. for latin there are the various verbs (balare, pipiar e, hinnire, mugire), but of onomatopoeia i can't think of much (Plautine "prox" comes close!). Quintilian shows why the actual words don't survive in our text s: (1.5.72: . . . sed minime nobis concessa est onomatopoiia. quis enim ferat si q uid simile illis merito laudatis "ligkse bios" (Il. 4.125) et"siz' ofthalmos"(o d. 9.394) fingere audeamus? iam ne 'balare' quidem aut 'hinnire' fortiter dicer emus nisi iudicio vetustatis niterentur. i don't own stanford's "sound of greek" but he might have something.

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993
From: Kevin Clinton
Subject: Re: animal noises

I have not yet seen Kenneth Dover's new commentary on Aristophanes' Frogs, but it should contain a good bit of information on animal sounds. He discussed his research on the subject in a talk he gave here several years ago. Kevin Clinton

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 16:19:25
From: gregory crane
Subject: Re: Vocabulary for animal noises (For Kitchell)

The quickest way to find words for animal noises is to check the index of definitions in middle liddell included in Perseus 1.0. A quick scan comes up with: bark: bau/zw, katabau/zw, u(la/w, u(lakte/w pig squealing: koi/zw cock crowing: kokku/zw of animals uttering a shrill cry: tri/zw cattle and oxen: muka/omai roaring (in general): a)nabruxa/w, bruxa/omai, bre/mw There are a lot more words that you could go through (over a hundred words have "cry" in their definition). The other strategy would be to search the english translations for "squeal," "low", etc. Have you checked the biological works of Aristotle? I don't recall if he deals with sound or not.

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993
Subject: Animal Sounds

I apologize if I am posting this to the wrong list, as the discussion of the representation of animal sounds in Greek and Latin may have originated on the Latin list. If so, perhaps someone could inform me so I can re-route this. As someone else suggested, W.B. Stanford does have a discussion of the representation of animal sounds in Greek in his Sather Lectures "The Sound of Greek". See the index under "animals, cries of" for several references.

Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993
From: Don Fowler
Subject: Re: animal noises

On the Latin semi-onomatopoeic verbs, a good starting point is the fragments of Suetonius' treatment of the subject (in Reifferscheid's ed.). There is still a fair amount to be queezed out of this subject: it's very relevant to Catullus 83, for instance, that gannire is the noise not of a dog but a fox(y lady: see TLL).

Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993
From: Virginia Knight
Subject: Re: Vocabulary for animal noises

I've always liked the noises made by Helios' animals in Odyssey 12: 'bleche' from the sheep and 'mukethmos' from the cattle. Apollonius of Rhodes must have liked these words too, since he uses them in his description of the same animals in Argonautica 4.
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