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From:
Mark A. Keith
Subject:
Music in the Ancient World
Date:
Tue, 4 Oct 94
I have a student who is very interested in both Latin and music. He
asked me if there exists any manuscript from the ancient world in
which musical notations are represented. I would appreciate any
information from experts on the this topic.
Date:
Tue, 4 Oct 1994
From:
Bill Harris
Subject:
RE: Music in the Ancient World
Iam
not an expert on ancient music, but have looked into it with
attention. There is almost nothing of Greek music, and the little
inscriptional material is controversial for interpretation. However,
there is some musical notation in MSS of Plautus, which had operatic
(cantica) sections, for which I would refer you to a colleage of
mine at Middlebury, Ursula Heibges, She has worked with this
material for some years.
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 94
From:
Joel Lidov
Subject: Re: Music in the Ancient World
M L West in _Ancient Greek Music_ provides a catalogue and biblio of
what survives of annotated Greek texts (most are from the Roman
period), and his own extensive transcriptions (i.e. reconstructions)
with comments. It's pretty technical stuff.
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 94
From: WEBB DENNIS W
Subject:
Re: Music in the Ancient World
A recent short summary of what is known about music in the ancient
world is contained in Giovanni Comotti's *Music in Greek and Roman
Culture* (Johns Hopkins UP, 1989). It has a chapter on texts and
musical notation.
Date:
Wed, 5 Oct 94
From:
Bob Ingria
Subject:
Music in the Ancient World
Well,
there are two recordings, based on the existing manuscripts, that
may be of interest:
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TITLE:
Musique de la Grece antique. [Sound recording]
IMPRINT: Harmonia Mundi HM 1015. [p1979]
PHYSICAL
FEATURES: 1 disc. 33 1/3 rpm. 12 in. [This is also available on
CD/BI]
NOTES:
Atrium Musicae de Madrid; Gregorio Paniagua, director. * Program
notes in French, English and German on container; complete contents
with listings of sources and instruments and voices on container;
book ([8] p.) in French, English and German texts laid in.
CONTENTS:
Side 1. 1. Orestes Stasimo, Euripides.--2. Premier hymne Delphique a
Apollon.--3. Plainte de Tecmessa.--4. Papyrus Wien 29825.--5. Hymne
au soliel. Mesomede de Crete.--6. Hymne a la muse. Mesomede de
Crete.--7.Hymne a Nemesis. Mesomede de Crete.--8. Papyrus Michigan
2958.--9. Aristofanes. Nuees 275-277.--Side 2. 10. Epitaphe de
Seikilos.--11. Paen. Papyrus Berlin 6870.--12. Premiere Ode Pythique
de Pindare.--13. Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 2436.--14. Hymne chretienne
d'Oxyrhynchus.--15. Homero hymnus. Benedetto Marcello.--16. Papyrus
Zenon. Cairo fragment.--17. Terencio. Hecyra vers 861.--18. Gregorio
Nazianzeno.--19. Second hymne Delphique a Apollon.--20. Papyrus Oslo
1413, A/B.
OTHER
AUTHORS, ETC: Paniagua, Gregorio. prf SUBJECTS: Music, Greek and
Roman. * Music, Ancient.
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TITLE:
History of music in sound. Vol. 1: Ancient and Oriental music.
[Sound recording]
IMPRINT:
RCA Victor LM 6057. [1957]
PHYSICAL
FEATURES: 2 discs. 33 1/3 rpm. mono. 12 in.
NOTES:
Title from container. * Recorded in England. * Automatic sequence. *
"The history of music in sound. Vol. 1: Ancient and Oriental
music, edited by Egon Wellesz. New York, Oxford University Press,
1957" (41 p. illus, music, 25 cm.) program notes by Egon
Wellesz and Gerald Abraham, intended originally for use with 78 rpm.
version, laid in container; corrected contents (p. 7-9) applicable
to 33 1/3 rpm. version inserted.
OTHER
AUTHORS, ETC: Wellesz, Egon, 1885-1974, ed. SUBJECTS: Music, Greek
and Roman. * Music, Oriental. P
UBLISHER'S
NUMBER: Issue no.:LM6057 RCA Victor
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Despite
its title, _Musique de la Grece antique_ includes the remaining
Roman pieces, as well. (There is also a more recent CD that is a
recording of only ancient Greek pieces, for those who are interested
in Greek music.) A Melvyl search with the subject Roman Music
provides over 400 hits, so you might want to look there. Among the
entries that look relevant to Roman music in particular:
7.
Anecdota varia graeca et latina / ediderunt Rudolf Scholl, Wilhelm
Studemund. Hildesheim : Weidmann, 1989.
21.
Anonyma de musica scripta Bellermanniana / ed. Dietmar Najock. 1.
Aufl. Leipzig : Teubner, BSB, 1975. Series title: Bibliotheca
scriptorum Graecorum et Romanorum Teubneriana.
67.
Baudot, Alain. Musiciens romains de l'antiquite. Montreal, Presses
de l'Universite de Montreal, 1973.
115.
Comotti, Giovanni, 1931- Music in Greek and Roman culture / Giovanni
Comotti ; translated by Rosaria V. Munson. Baltimore : Johns Hopkins
University Press, c1989. Series title: Ancient society and history.
116.
Comotti, Giovanni, 1931- La musica nella cultura greca e romana /
[di] Giovanni Comotti. Torino : EDT, 1979. Series title: Biblioteca
di cultura musicale ;. Series title: Storia della musica (Turin,
Italy) ; v. 1, pt. 1.
402.
Thesaurus musicarum latinarum : TML : canon of data files :
including general information on the Thesaurus musicarum latinarum
and the TML introduction. [Bloomington, Ind.?] : The Thesaurus,
c1991.
403.
Thesaurus musicarum latinarum : TML : canon of data files :
including general information on the Thesaurus musicarum latinarum,
the TML introduction, the principles of orthography, and the table
of codes. [Bloomington, Ind.?] : The Thesaurus, c1992.
443.
DISSERTATION Wille, Gunther. Musica Romana. Die Bedeutung der Musik
im Leben der Romer. Amsterdam, P. Schippers, 1967.
Date:
Tue, 04 Oct 1994 2
From:
Stockton Garver
Subject:
Re: Ancient Music
I'm
sorry this is a bit vague (my vinyl is packed away in storage) but,
there is a recording _Musique de la Grece Antique_ that was
available about five years ago which has 20 or so tracks of ancient
Greek and Roman music. It is performed by a French ensemble (I
think) on recreated/reconstructed instruments, using bits and pieces
of annotations from docs such as Pap. Oxyrhynchus; Pap. Berlin; Pap.
Vienna; Pap. Michigan, with dates running from 6th/5th BC to 3rd/4th
AD. As I recall, there are pretty extensive liner notes included
with the recording; all I have accessible is the tape I made so I
can't tell you any more than this. I believe I got the record from a
Hackert or Barnes and Noble catalogue.
Date:
Thu, 06 Oct 1994
From:
Owen Cramer
Subject:
Greek music
There
seem to be only the two recordings: Gregorio Paniagua's Madrid group
(with the French title and all the extraneous percussion and reverb)
and the older Oxford Hist. of Music companion set; both originally
on vinyl, the Paniagua also now on CD. If one considered what is
known about qualities of voice prized in Greece (I hesitate to cite
it, but Allan Lomax invented something called "cantometrics"
for the possible use of ethnographers: _Folksong Style and Culture_,
AAAS c. 1970, which would supply parameters), the Oxford recording
is too rounded Italian-opera in vocal style and Paniagua's group
even not thin enough. The ascending/descending scale issue isn't as
interesting as the tetrachord-type issue: the tetrachord is defined
from top down by what happens to the two pitches between the "hestotes",
which are tuned three different ways the most un-western of which is
enharmonic, intervals of major third, quarter-tone, quarter-tone
within the fourth. It's best to experiment with the existing
fragments, starting with the Seikelos hymn (which doesn't use
enharmonic tuning and which starts with a rousing rising fifth from
the bottom of one tetrachord to the bottom of the tetrachord above
it in the octave. What we don't have is a performance tradition
continuous with ancient Greek song--musical revolution ca. 400 BCE
and the intro- duction of Jewish chant by the Christian church
prevented that at least in the higher registers of the culture.
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 11:55:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Garrett Fagan
Subject:
Ancient Music
Pertinent
to a recent thread on ancient music, I got a flyer in the mail today
advertising CDs of Ancient Greek and Latin Music. Interested parties
should call 1-800-243-1234. I've no idea who accurate the music is.
I just thought it might be useful for those interested.
The
company's address is: Audio Forum, Suite A118, 96 Broad St.,
Guilford, Connecticut 06437. The CD is called "Music of Ancient
Greece" (order no.:CD1112). The package "Latin Music
Through the Ages" (order no.:SLT150) is $29.50 and covers Latin
choral music from Medieval through modern times. It comprises a
cassette and book of texts/essays on each piece. Shipping and
Handling charges are: for order up to $25: $3.50; for order
$25.01-$50: $4.50. That should be all you need to get the goodies.
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